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		<title>By: Christopher Ehren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Ehren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too! I&#039;d like to know if anyone has any news on this:

I tried calling AT&amp;T once and that Tech was not even sure what I was talking about. Am going to try again later...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too! I&#8217;d like to know if anyone has any news on this:</p>
<p>I tried calling AT&amp;T once and that Tech was not even sure what I was talking about. Am going to try again later&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has there been any indication that AT&amp;T is willing to disable the caller instructions for non-iPhone users?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has there been any indication that AT&amp;T is willing to disable the caller instructions for non-iPhone users?</p>
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		<title>By: ThatSeattleGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.takebackthebeep.com/david-pogue-touched-a-nerve-today/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatSeattleGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got off the phone with AT&amp;T - who after two levels of tech support, 45 minutes on hold, and a manager callback, told me &quot;this is impossible - it can&#039;t be done&quot;. 

So, armed with this blog, I called back again, got a different rep, and he opened a ticket in five minutes. (We&#039;ll see in a few days whether it actually worked, of course...)

Thanks all for the info and support.

TSG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got off the phone with AT&amp;T &#8211; who after two levels of tech support, 45 minutes on hold, and a manager callback, told me &#8220;this is impossible &#8211; it can&#8217;t be done&#8221;. </p>
<p>So, armed with this blog, I called back again, got a different rep, and he opened a ticket in five minutes. (We&#8217;ll see in a few days whether it actually worked, of course&#8230;)</p>
<p>Thanks all for the info and support.</p>
<p>TSG</p>
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		<title>By: Tatu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tatu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NEWS FLASH! ATT decided to give me back my beep. After 3 weeks and 10 hours of phone talk.  I could tell they just didn&#039;t want to do it. They wanted me to wait until they finished upgrading. I said why couldn&#039;t you just fix it. They said it&#039;s fixed now isn&#039;t it!
I tested it and said thanks. They hung up. So that&#039;s it? I don&#039;t know what they did they wouldn&#039;t tell me. I just hung up!

Then I see this story floating around

AppleInsider is reporting that AT&amp;T and Apple are discussing new features that could arrive exclusively on the iPhone “before year’s end.”
&quot;other exclusive features will reportedly come in the form of a new voicemail setting that will allow users to disable the custom voicemail greeting and the AT&amp;T voicemail introduction heard by other users. The feature, presumably to be pitched as a time saver, will also allow users to automatically bypass all greetings and instructions when placing calls to other AT&amp;T customers.&quot;

NOW just how is this going to work? This voice mail platform stuff is really deep ya think? Would some please explain what&#039;s next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NEWS FLASH! ATT decided to give me back my beep. After 3 weeks and 10 hours of phone talk.  I could tell they just didn&#8217;t want to do it. They wanted me to wait until they finished upgrading. I said why couldn&#8217;t you just fix it. They said it&#8217;s fixed now isn&#8217;t it!<br />
I tested it and said thanks. They hung up. So that&#8217;s it? I don&#8217;t know what they did they wouldn&#8217;t tell me. I just hung up!</p>
<p>Then I see this story floating around</p>
<p>AppleInsider is reporting that AT&amp;T and Apple are discussing new features that could arrive exclusively on the iPhone “before year’s end.”<br />
&#8220;other exclusive features will reportedly come in the form of a new voicemail setting that will allow users to disable the custom voicemail greeting and the AT&amp;T voicemail introduction heard by other users. The feature, presumably to be pitched as a time saver, will also allow users to automatically bypass all greetings and instructions when placing calls to other AT&amp;T customers.&#8221;</p>
<p>NOW just how is this going to work? This voice mail platform stuff is really deep ya think? Would some please explain what&#8217;s next?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Fry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Fry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, how frustrating!  I&#039;m on travel in Europe, and I don&#039;t have my case number with me; I can get it for you when I get back to the US next week.  Chris Allen left a Twitter post (see Twitter Updates at the top of this page) that he was also successful and said that he will be posting instructions on this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, how frustrating!  I&#8217;m on travel in Europe, and I don&#8217;t have my case number with me; I can get it for you when I get back to the US next week.  Chris Allen left a Twitter post (see Twitter Updates at the top of this page) that he was also successful and said that he will be posting instructions on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Tatu Ruggeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Tatu Ruggeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ask the question...If Alan allegedly has the fix &quot;NONE&quot; in &quot;that field&quot;
                                         why is my ATT ticket still open?

This is ridiculous people! 
  September 2 2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ask the question&#8230;If Alan allegedly has the fix &#8220;NONE&#8221; in &#8220;that field&#8221;<br />
                                         why is my ATT ticket still open?</p>
<p>This is ridiculous people!<br />
  September 2 2009</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Tatu Ruggeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Tatu Ruggeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Chris for your time and allowing us to post
Alan maybe your case number may be helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Chris for your time and allowing us to post<br />
Alan maybe your case number may be helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Tatu Ruggeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Tatu Ruggeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay Alan I did suggest what you said to Level 3 Tech Support.

 asked my tech specifically what the technical name of change that was made to my account, and it is “set the caller prompt field to ‘none’”. 

John Lynch real nice guy said there is NO such field. 

It&#039;s still open ticket with the engineers.

This is crazy, What is really going on? So I still wait. They said they would or could or consider releasing me from my contact so I could go to Sprint Palm Pre with NO LADY.. I don&#039;t really want to but Guess I will when we get to that bridge

Thanks Alan

BTW- The techs a reading this at ATT. 
&quot;Just fix it&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Alan I did suggest what you said to Level 3 Tech Support.</p>
<p> asked my tech specifically what the technical name of change that was made to my account, and it is “set the caller prompt field to ‘none’”. </p>
<p>John Lynch real nice guy said there is NO such field. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s still open ticket with the engineers.</p>
<p>This is crazy, What is really going on? So I still wait. They said they would or could or consider releasing me from my contact so I could go to Sprint Palm Pre with NO LADY.. I don&#8217;t really want to but Guess I will when we get to that bridge</p>
<p>Thanks Alan</p>
<p>BTW- The techs a reading this at ATT.<br />
&#8220;Just fix it&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Fry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Fry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So today, one day after having my iPhone 3GS corrected to eliminate the VM instructions (see previous post), I was waiting to hear back from AT&amp;T about making the same change to wife&#039;s 3GS.  I got a call from a polite AT&amp;T tech who told me &quot;sorry, we can&#039;t eliminate the VM instruction message for customers with Visual Voicemail &quot;.  I politely informed him that yesterday his colleagues had done just that for my iPhone.  He was surprised, but said he would resubmit the ticket to the VM team to basically duplicate the change they had mad to my iPhone on wife&#039;s iPhone.  I thanked him and hung up.  Within 30 minutes I got a call back from the same tech who told me that he had rechecked the original ticket, and found out that evidently they had already made the change on wife&#039;s iPhone.  I gave wife a call to check her VM, and success no VM instructions!

So lessons from all this are (1) the people who talk to you on the phone are NOT the people who can actually make the change, so don&#039;t get too upset with them if they pass along incorrect information - it&#039;s what they are being told, (2) the people who have the power to actually make the change don&#039;t all seem to agree on whether it is possible to make the change, (3) it is quite definitely possible to eliminate the VM instructions for an iPhone 3GS - I&#039;m 2 for 2!

If any of you have been stuck at the &quot;sorry we can&#039;t make the change&quot; message from tech support, try again.  Try using the lingo from my previous post (e.g. &quot;set caller prompt field to NONE&quot;) to help communicate exactly what you want.  If you get really stuck and repeatedly fail to get tech support to find back-end engineers willing and able to make the change, leave a comment for me in this forum and I&#039;ll send you my case number so you can reference it as an example of a AT&amp;T successfully executing this request.

FYI this tech repeated the comment that my other tech had made yesterday - AT&amp;T is getting a lot of these requests lately.  He was also the first among the techs with whom I have spoken aware of the NYT column.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So today, one day after having my iPhone 3GS corrected to eliminate the VM instructions (see previous post), I was waiting to hear back from AT&amp;T about making the same change to wife&#8217;s 3GS.  I got a call from a polite AT&amp;T tech who told me &#8220;sorry, we can&#8217;t eliminate the VM instruction message for customers with Visual Voicemail &#8220;.  I politely informed him that yesterday his colleagues had done just that for my iPhone.  He was surprised, but said he would resubmit the ticket to the VM team to basically duplicate the change they had mad to my iPhone on wife&#8217;s iPhone.  I thanked him and hung up.  Within 30 minutes I got a call back from the same tech who told me that he had rechecked the original ticket, and found out that evidently they had already made the change on wife&#8217;s iPhone.  I gave wife a call to check her VM, and success no VM instructions!</p>
<p>So lessons from all this are (1) the people who talk to you on the phone are NOT the people who can actually make the change, so don&#8217;t get too upset with them if they pass along incorrect information &#8211; it&#8217;s what they are being told, (2) the people who have the power to actually make the change don&#8217;t all seem to agree on whether it is possible to make the change, (3) it is quite definitely possible to eliminate the VM instructions for an iPhone 3GS &#8211; I&#8217;m 2 for 2!</p>
<p>If any of you have been stuck at the &#8220;sorry we can&#8217;t make the change&#8221; message from tech support, try again.  Try using the lingo from my previous post (e.g. &#8220;set caller prompt field to NONE&#8221;) to help communicate exactly what you want.  If you get really stuck and repeatedly fail to get tech support to find back-end engineers willing and able to make the change, leave a comment for me in this forum and I&#8217;ll send you my case number so you can reference it as an example of a AT&amp;T successfully executing this request.</p>
<p>FYI this tech repeated the comment that my other tech had made yesterday &#8211; AT&amp;T is getting a lot of these requests lately.  He was also the first among the techs with whom I have spoken aware of the NYT column.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Fry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Fry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Success!  Only one day after my initial call (see my other comment in the &quot;Contact&quot; page), AT&amp;T called me back today to inform me that they had removed the voicemail instruction on my VM.  While I was on the line with the tech (a different phone) she called my iPhone to verify that she got the beep right after my personal message.  Then I called my wife&#039;s iPhone to do the same test, but she still has the voicemail instructions.  The tech said she would inform the VM team and they would try to make the same change to wife&#039;s iPhone tomorrow.

Rob Tatu Ruggeri, it sounds like you had a _much_ worse experience than me - very frustrating!  In case it helps, I asked my tech specifically what the technical name of change that was made to my account, and it is &quot;set the caller prompt field to &#039;none&#039;&quot;.  I also asked what was the most direct route to making this request, and she said (1) call AT&amp;T customer service, (2) explain the issue and ask for AT&amp;T technical support (not Apple), (3) explain the issue to tech support and request the that they &quot;set the caller prompt field to &#039;none&#039;&quot;, and then (4) they will open a ticket to have the VM team make the change.  I was actually quite impressed with the prompt service I got from everyone I spoke with at AT&amp;T.

Incidentally I have asked all of the techs I talked to if they were familiar with David Pogue&#039;s NYT column about this issue, and none of them were, but they all seemed interested.  The last tech also noted that there were a lot of requests for the same change in the past few days, so perhaps this thing is getting some momentum within AT&amp;T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Success!  Only one day after my initial call (see my other comment in the &#8220;Contact&#8221; page), AT&amp;T called me back today to inform me that they had removed the voicemail instruction on my VM.  While I was on the line with the tech (a different phone) she called my iPhone to verify that she got the beep right after my personal message.  Then I called my wife&#8217;s iPhone to do the same test, but she still has the voicemail instructions.  The tech said she would inform the VM team and they would try to make the same change to wife&#8217;s iPhone tomorrow.</p>
<p>Rob Tatu Ruggeri, it sounds like you had a _much_ worse experience than me &#8211; very frustrating!  In case it helps, I asked my tech specifically what the technical name of change that was made to my account, and it is &#8220;set the caller prompt field to &#8216;none&#8217;&#8221;.  I also asked what was the most direct route to making this request, and she said (1) call AT&amp;T customer service, (2) explain the issue and ask for AT&amp;T technical support (not Apple), (3) explain the issue to tech support and request the that they &#8220;set the caller prompt field to &#8216;none&#8217;&#8221;, and then (4) they will open a ticket to have the VM team make the change.  I was actually quite impressed with the prompt service I got from everyone I spoke with at AT&amp;T.</p>
<p>Incidentally I have asked all of the techs I talked to if they were familiar with David Pogue&#8217;s NYT column about this issue, and none of them were, but they all seemed interested.  The last tech also noted that there were a lot of requests for the same change in the past few days, so perhaps this thing is getting some momentum within AT&amp;T.</p>
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